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the way I actually made money on modifications on a car I used to own was by installing upgraded original parts. I installed the factory sports suspension and did some minor tweaks to the engine so it ran exactly like the higher eingine choice. cars with that engine and that suspension goes for more than it cost to get the same parts from the scrap yard. so I bought that car for $600, spent another $600 and sold it for $2000. but I put more hours on it than the extra money was worth and I would have made more money just to work the same amount of hours at my job. it was fun to do tho and the car was really fun to drive for a while so I still think it was worth it
This is amplified when we start talking about pick-up trucks. At least 50% of the buyers will be looking for something to use for work. Once the suspension has been messed with it becomes useless as a work truck. Add the gimmicky tail lights, wheels, grill, shaved tailgate handle, and etc. it becomes worthless to anyone other than a teenager. One thing I'm surprised you didn't touch on is the quality of the mods. For the most part it's a guessing game. Especially engine upgrades. There are so many little subsequent upgrades or adjustments that need to also be made. Did the mechanic really know what he was doing? Many of those mods become a liability and a risk. I'm not paying more for that.
As an unapologetic automotive purist thank you for making this video. I will admit I will give an exception for commercial/work purposes or for daily non- classics if it increases the usability or enjoyment with the understanding that vehicle will likely never be more than a loyal daily driver. For example I put an aftermarket head unit in my 03 Yukon. I also went to 17 in GMC wheels rather than keeping the stock 16 in because here in Oklahoma 17 in tires are much easier to find and actually costs less. Now as far as classics go. I like seeing carburetors, inline 6 cylinders, drum brakes etc etc. I do understand the safety and reliability concerns and if a classic is seeing lots of miles I can understand that viewpoint even though it always rips a part of my heart out when I see the old technology being lost.
Every single person in buy/sell groups on facebook needs to watch this lmao. So many people dont get how this works.
This applies to houses sometimes... sometimes, like modifying a room or house to your taste very specifically, a good example on the really high end is Michael Jordans mansion that was on the market forever, this can happen on a smaller scale though, like installing a low quality above ground pool or like a pokemon tiled bathroom or something weird.
Why people expect to recoup the retail cost of their mods is a mystery. If the car has depreciated say, 40% from new then so have the mods, if not more. Plus many modifications just replaced a version of a thing the car already had. Nothing was really added to the car just replaced.
Doug the type of guy to address himself as "this" instead of "I"
Does PPFing add value?
That's complete bullshit. It all depends on the modifications.
"Cool cat"I understand.
i only watched to see the shark - car from the thumbnail :(
1am in the morning… bout to smoke a blunt, and start my day. Thank you for existing, Doug.
The new camera angle is so that you know that his ears are clean. LOOK AT HOW CLEAN THEY ARE!!!
I inherited a '73 Buick Limited [Electra] my dad bought brand-new. I'm even hesitant to upgrade the radio because I want her to be JUST as she came from the factory. No wild wheels and tires or exhaust mods either. Triple black 2-door, the paint isn't the greatest but I won't repaint because then she's no longer original! I've turned down ridiculous amounts for her BECAUSE I keep her all original. It's true; they're only original ONCE.
Whats with the side cameea lol
The Fast and the Furious
The title of the video should be renamed as “why modifications don’t add value to your car that’s gonna be sold to the market”
I feel like Doug missed the biggest point. The main reason why YOUR mods don’t make your car more valuable is because YOU lack credibilityIf you think about it, an m3 is just a modified version of 3 series, AMG is just modified version of a mercedes, however, they are significantly more desirable because it’s done by credible people. When YOU make modification to YOUR vehicle, it could be significantly better than the stock version, but to others there is always that uncertainty whether it’s been done properly. Did they use ductape? Are all the bolts properly torqued? How is this going to affect other components? Did this person take any shortcuts that they shouldn’t have? What do they actually know about engineering? Etc..This is why cars tuned by established tuning companies, or high performance division of manufacturers, are significantly more valuable than their stock counter parts. Ie, Alpina BMW, RUF porsche, Blackseries mercedes, Callaway Corvette etc..Mods that improve driving experience, wether that is more power, less weight, better brakes etc are more desirable, but not at the expense of safety and reliability. So when YOU install quad turbos in your garage, people are gonna wonder if overall package is going to work.
I would pay more for an LS-swapped Delorean even if it wasn't becoming common.
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The best way to get 10 grand more for your car is to sell it with 20 grand in cash in the trunk.
Good stuff. I was an insurance appraiser, and thankfully I rarely ran into someone who was aggressive about how much their car was worth with mods. Granted I was on the repair side of things rather than the selling side, though sometimes people were also planning to get rid of the car anyway so value did come up. Basically everyone I talked to about was realistic about how the money they'd put into the car was pretty much gone. I think the most anyone had ever put into a now-totaled car was like $3k, about twice what that car was honestly worth, but that guy was well aware he had been essentially throwing his money away too. Around here what most people spend the big money on is oversized wheels, and that market is substantial enough that it's not a bad investment.
I couldn’t agree more! You were 100% SPOT ON in this one Doug! I’ve been looking for a used Diesel Truck for a couple months now. And even though I plan on tuning it, doing exhaust, intake and all sorts of other mods. I DO NOT want YOUR mods. Even if some of them are what I would have picked myself. Part of the value in mods, in my opinion, is doing the mods yourself! Or at least the before and after reaction you have in your own head when modding something. For example… it’s fun to drive a tuned compound turbo diesel truck for a test drive. But I think it’s even more fun if you experience the original power level and then get to experience the massive increase in power after modding.
"Let me buy this 1930-40s era stock, complete car and add the 50k in parts and labor to make it go and stop like modern traffic, instead of buying a street rod already done for 40-50k" Yeah -- buyers don't think that way. I will say the points argued in this video do generally kick in collector cars built later.
Doug looks naked with only one shirt and its making me uncomfortable
When he says Card & Bids*Skip Skip Skip Skip skip Skip Skip Skip Skip Skip Skip Skip Skip Skip Skip*
i would never pay "serious" money for a modded car because I once saw a "professionally built" car with wood screws holding on trim and spoiler. And by serious money I mean anything over $2k
Cool thing is there’s this dealership in Texas called Texas hot rides. They buy and sell only modified cars. I actually made 10k profit by selling my 1,000 hp C7 z06.
agree! doug less coffee
Useful to JDM losers.
I love the cute stock animations change. Some of them are pretty funny like how your older videos have chimpanzee sound effects. The second camera angle on the other hand doesn’t stick the landing. Like it more front and center. Just an opinion.
actually they are
I worked at a dealership in college, it was exceptionally true of GMC Yukon and Denali's with huge rims, we would ask if they still had the original rims and if the answer was no we would drop the trade-in offer by 4k instantly. Because no one would buy one of those trucks used with weird rims.
I wonder what next weeks episode of “Doug lectures the obvious” will be about! Seriously though this guy loves hearing himself speak. Didn’t he have a second channel for vids like this?
trust me, this is not obvious to many people
Everyone selling there modded wrx on kijiji for 20-30 k
Doug what about paint protection film or ceramic coating? How are those translating to resale value. I would consider them mods.
The animations are gold 🤣
3:27 Now I know who that crazy guy was, at the last cars and coffee
I'm surprised award winning modified cars wasn't mentioned. I think a modified car that has multiple car show awards or featured on magazines could be a good selling point.
Only cars built by reputable shops and properly documented will raise the value of a car
another one is when kids put ugly cheap fiberglass fenders and bumpers on cars. You definitely think "it's gonna cost me a LOT more for a legit OEM bumper this dumb kid threw away for that cheap piece of flimsy hollow cardboard looking drift crap on there now" THEN thousands of dollars of body and paint work.
Very precise, sensible and rational.
Upgrading the guides for the timing chain on a B6/B7 Audi S4 can more than double the value of the car.
$97000 for a converted Mercedes sprinter?!?
it’s a camper van with a bed, kitchen, toilet, etc… try finding another camper van under 100k
Over 9 mins in a 12 min video to get to the what improves a car....😑
Sad but true.
I understand your argument regarding especially showoff kind of modifications. However, this seems to apply to manufacturer options also, to a certain degree, as not everyone will want additional screens, a sunroof and so on. That said, to the person who modified this video... sorry buddy but we will not be needing your services from this point in time onwards.:\
i want a 3rd camera angle just pointed straight up your nose.
The real question is: Why mod a car you're going to sell anyway?
I always go by the rule of if I wad to traed in my ride to a dealer. Usually dealers don’t give a crap about your mods
C6Z. Heads/cam/intake cars CONSISTENTLY sell for significantly more money than stock/near-stock cars with similar miles/condition. One of the big reasons is the valve guide issues with these cars - many buyers want this addressed, which is addressed when doing the heads. Will get your parts cost back out in resale? Typically no (well, if you did them a year ago, absolutely in today's crazy market). But you will get several grand more for the car than one without that done. I got lucky with mine, and only paid a couple grand more for mine already modded than if I had bought a stock one, but I bought well and can sell for well over what I have into the car.
so you telling me the spinning hub caps didn't increased the value of my pinto?
Wife: OMG girl I haven't seen you in so long look you have to meet my husband! Ow here he comes girl this is- Doug: 0:00
What increase value of the car? Using premium spare parts and regular service. Some lame rims and „fake Taxi” stickers along with „sport exhaust” not really
What about period correct mods? Example: Does an Skyline R34 with an all original Tommy Kaira's kit installed is more valuable than an all stock R34? How different would it be? Awesome video Doug! :)
The second camera angle reminds me of someone describing their point of view during an intervention 🤣💀
I’m about to piss Doug off and throw a hellcat engine in my Kia Optima 💀
it's funny to me you had to make a video explaining this.. but it doesn't surprise me.
Not sure I love the edits + extra camera angle on this. Part of the charm of your videos has been the straightforward video formats imo!
You still owe me a ten second car !!
Original and COMPLETELY stock. Older owner with low miles. I’ll pay more...
How did you get that Italian plate?? Is it original?
Doug, you just lubricated my soul with this video. It's awfully true what you said.
As a viewer in Vietnam, I hope your channel, you can add Vietnamese subtitles to each video, maybe a few sentences I hear and understand, but mostly few. I would like to thank you for your comments
Appreciate your channel Doug, you provide good insight and quality content 💯
Every cheap ass with a civic full of mods: “Why?!”
YYYEEEEESSSSSSS! Amazed at how many people do not get this concept!!!
Lucky for me I have managed to keep my Kia Rondo all stock, despite peer pressure.
gonna send this to my retarded buddy
The trick is to hit the sweet spot price. Sell the car where if the person doesnt like your mods they can actually make money if they took them off and sold them whilst also listing the car at a price you'll make money on :)
Funny how, as buyers, we want to pay as little as possible...sometimes unreasonably so. But, as sellers, we want as much as possible...sometimes unreasonably so.
Same goes for motorcycles.
Resto Mods like a Singer Porsche?
ok, legit question: what about OEM+ manufacturer modifications/additions?ie: i have a mk7.5 Golf R and i added Euro (VW) power folding mirrors, coded properly, with Euro-spec aspherical mirror lenses and also a spare tire kit (the NA spec cars didn't come with that).
Shitty or limited mods don't improve value, but a well-built beast of a car built on an inexpensive chassis can greatly improve the value of the inexpensive chassis. Let's use a 1000 hp 2JZ in a 350z with track-worthy supporting mods as an example. You'll never recover your money, but the $5000 chassis can be, and are commonly sold for $25000.
I've modded cars before and sold them and I very much agree with this video. You would be delusional to think you can get every dollar back of the mods, sometimes it will increase the value it's only about 50% of what you paid for the mod not including installation. I recently sold my off road truck which I considered modded the correct way and actually got full asking price from the 1st person intrested $3k over Kelley Blue Book. That is one example of a sale going the sellers way but often it does not happen like that. GREAT VIDEO DOUG
Vanquish + 80k mod Manual Transmision... worth it?
Thank you for confirming. I realised this in the eighties. Plenty of buddies modding, getting less than axed when selling.
Yes, keep Sedona wild.Yes!
I'm more excited about that Acura TLX Type S in the beginning!
TLDR: Part your Modded car out, revert it back to stock = Profit.
He's gonna create controversy.... We don't modify cars to sell
I bought a super clean NA Miata about ten years ago for $3600. It had hard top and was bone stock. I put in easily over $10k in "tasteful" mods, really nice paint, wheels etc. I ended up selling it for $7500 about a year ago. Didn't make my money back by any means, but it was on the market for a long time waiting for the "right" buyer.
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Doug take the laptop out of your lap it’s extremely unprofessional
Thank you Doug! I have seen too many people take 10k to turn a 20k vehicle into a 12k vehicle with stupid mods.
I like the different angle, but I'm sure it will work much better when driving a car, try an angle where we can see you sideways in a drive position, or from behind, and a view of the dash and windscreen. Concerning your opinion modifications to cars, here in the Netherlands it's definitely an upgrade when it is done properly, and will raise the value significantly
I just wanna know if that's a super chill fly on his left sleeve or a glutinous mosquito 🤔
My first venture into modifying a car, I modded a 94 civic. Ya generic I know. I bought the car for $800 with a blown head gasket which cost $2000 to repair. Spent $1000ish on suspension upgrades, $350ish to convert rear brakes from drum to disk, and spent about $600 on repairing body damage caused by the previous owner. Among other mods, I wanted an autocross/track car that was still street legal...barely. had the car for 7 years and sold it for $1000. My original asking price was $1200. Last I heard a few months ago, it's still on the road in California where I sold it now smog exempt. I want one again but every one I find is swapped and/or turbo'd and they want 5k for it and it's in terrible shape. Like seriously? I'd see that if it was a B16B or K20. But you put a H22 in it. Yay. Good for you.
I was kinda hoping Doug could shit all over the squatted truck craze going on right now :(
How does anyone really think mods increase the value?
2nd camera looks like you're on a Zoom call with the Zoom window moved to a 2nd display
I took a cargo van and built it into a camper van. now its worth more ha ha ha
There's an old and famous VW advert (maybe only European?) that shows modded VWs crying >( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsgPGMrouE8) The subtle humour being obvious to those who dislike mods. And you alienate this group immediately when trying to sell your modded car. Much the same as ordering your car in a really unpopular colour. If you like it great, but your resale market is limited.
Those pipe cleaner arms are sexy
if a guy who knows what he is doing modifies a car extensively, and then puts it up for sale.......these guys are into what they have done and they will show you and explain to you the nature and the extent of the modifications. if the car shows extensive mods and the seller is not presenting himself as the person who commissioned/did the mods or knows much about it- back off. believe it or not these guys may have vastly improved the car or maybe not- as a car-buying person you need to know the differences so you can decide if the car is a good value. maybe the guy built a motor for the car using older and possibly quite rare parts which may or may not be OE stuff. maybe the cylinder head, valve train, and crankshaft/bottom end stuff is unavailable now or terribly expensive and hard to find. maybe the car has a rare transmission or a very expensive final drive unit. you have to know what you are looking at and decide if you will be able to duplicate it at a reasonable cost- a given engine and drivetrain can cost 10k or more and you can add that to whatever cost or time is involved in hunting down the needed parts. on many older cars that have been extensively modified, you really cannot duplicate a given mod if you can't find the parts (at a reasonable cost). bottom line- if you are a car guy you will know if a car is a good value. if you are not, better stick with what the factory used on that car. of course there are people will know some stuff about cars- err on the side of caution. a successful dealer parts manger (hey glenn) once said "the farther you get from stock- the more problems you're gonna have". very true, but solving problems is something a real car guy is good at and he may be willing to make a trade-off or overcome problems on his own. if you are that car guy- I salute you because i know there are so many ways to screw up the building of a street car. i used to build datsun 510s but the donor cars are just too rare/expensive now, and so are some of the more desirable used parts that are needed. too bad- it was so much fun.
Pontiac Fieros with the 231 engine (3800) supercharged or an G-body Buick regal on 26 inch chrome rims.
Doug's great, but dang someone needs to take the coffee away from him. I had to drink a cup just to keep up.One point he didn't touch is that even if a car has modifications I love, I still won't pay full price for them as I assume that I'm going to have trouble selling the car when the time comes.
As well as the points made regarding mod devaluing the car, for me, I assume they were done by the car owner/seller, so I assume that it may have been poorly executed. Mainly with mechanical things. I don't wanna pay a premium for a car that some amateur mechanic has tinkered and messed with. Plus, even if you liked some of the mods, as Doug said it's unlikely you'll like them all. Some are easy fixes like wheels, but some may be more permanent if they'd hacked bits off of the car.